<< Home || Coffees || Events || About || Subscribe || ||

Friday, August 08, 2008
  10 Reasons coffee doesn't taste like the bag descriptions
10. Water - There are times when water plays an issue in what tastes are coming from a brew. Use good water, filtered, or even bottled if you are not sure. Sample different waters and compare.

9. Grind - The grind is off or worse, your blades are dull and worn out. Worn out blades are the most common problem in cafes and frequent home users.

8. Brew time - Over or under steeping can leave you with an undeveloped cup or some unpleasantly bitter or dry notes. Pay attention to time.

7. Temperature - If you have a home drip coffee maker, your temp is probably too low, a common espresso machine, your temp is either way too high or way too low. Either way, check it and eliminate it as an issue.

6. Crop variance - Few coffees will ever be exactly the same throughout an entire offering. The more bags, the more likely there will be some natural crop variance throughout. This is unavoidable in all but the most premium lots.

5. Weather - Humidity or ambient temperature could have played a part in either storage or in creating variance during the production roast. This is an unseen factor which cannot be accounted for by the end consumer.

4. Roaster error - You could write a novel on this point. Needless to say, nobody is perfect and sometimes the coffees run the profile but something was wrong. Something wasn't cleaned, an appropriate change was not made to compensate for environmental variation, or worse in that the roaster could not identify the error even post roast. I know some roasters just cannot handle the wet and high grown coffees so they end up with raw tasting sharp astringency and other weird flavors that vary batch to batch.

3. Brew method - Everyone has different evaluation methods. We cup and then vac pot, (then espresso for some roasts) but that's not common. We heard one roaster uses a technivorm for evaluation but most people just use traditional cupping which often doesn't taste like your home brewer's profile. For espresso, it's as simple as the difference between using a GB5 and a Robur vs an E61 with a Jolly, don't expect the same tastes.

2. Age - Coffee gets old. Roasts age and fade in the weeks after roast but more interestingly, unroasted coffees fade and change. So X roaster prints a thousand fancy labels and you buy one bag of retail coffee the first month it arrives. Buying a second retail bag three months later, the chances are it won't be the same but the label won't change because it's cheaper to print labels ahead. Simple common sense tells us that as raw coffee fades in color, something is lost so it should be a given for anyone who reads this blog to accept coffee gets old.

1. Personal palette - I think of some of our west coast friends who caught the light roast bug. They constantly use terms they are familiar with like 'jolly rancher' or 'stone fruit' which is probably accurate but not everyone will relate. Tasting notes can be very subjective simply because your vocabulary is based on your own personal experiences. Worse, some cuppers give you notes that are romantically inclined and can border on romantic imagery vs the impression of a distinct taste.

Personal palette is most often the reason or excuse given when you buy a bag and don't get the taste descriptors. This can often be followed by either delicate or often abrasive critique of your brew method/water/personal ability depending on how customer service is at that roaster. Let's put it simple, chances are you won't get the bag descriptors in your cup.

It begs the simple question, how useful are taste descriptors on the bags?

Labels: ,

 
Comments:
Jaime,
Great list. One comment: a coffee may offer a palette of flavors, but it's your personal palate that determines what you find attractive.

Yeah, I freelance as a proofreader.
 
A thought on cupping notes:
I think the bag descriptors do serve some purpose, even if they are perverted from their perceived purpose. I would argue that some people are more willing to buy coffee at $15+/lb because they can justify to husbands and wives that it actually is better ("Look... this isn't Maxwell House; it tastes like citrus, sarsaparilla, with a chocolatey finish"). They create conversation points.

But perhaps the most important thing they do is prompt the human brain. For those who don't have such a well defined palate, the mere suggestion that one should be looking for "citrus" can make them feel that they taste the citrus. It makes the consumer happy and more engaged with the coffee. I don't know whether this is a good thing or not.
Perhaps the best demonstration that I've seen of the power of suggestion is about 9:30 into the video at (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html). It deals with audio, but I feel that the result is very similar to telling someone what they are supposed to taste in the cup.

-Ben Salinas
 
I think this is a really interesting post - and this is a subject we plan to explore in the not too distant future.

I have to say that I read cupping notes or labels and I tend to gain an overall expectation for a coffee, not a very precise one coming from the descriptors.

I'll then drink the coffee, decide if I like it and then try and understand why using the label for inspiration.

I know this isn't how most people drink coffee - but then do the people who write labels drink the coffee like most people drink coffee? For our bag descriptions (which I will never be happy with!) we brewed the coffee a variety of different ways and look for accesable commonalities.

I am concerned that the way speciality coffee people write labels (ourselves included right now) is growing stagnant.
 
The more general the descriptor is, the more helpful I think it is. The thought of tasting "jolly rancher" (of any color) in coffee repulses me--a description of citrus, high acidity, and strong sweetness (which is a general description, in my opinion, of a yellow "lemon" rancher) means something to my palate and, I figure, to my customers. The general wasn't any less meaningful or helpful, in fact it was more so. The more particular, the more idiosyncratic, the less able to bridge between one subjective palate to the next.

This isn't to say that if a coffee has a dominant, can't miss it unless you've got anosmia, sort of flavor that it should be avoided. I've had a coffee that tasted like a pink grapefruit and I've had one that tasted like roasted, salty peanuts--I would use those descriptors because there was absolutely no other way to describe them. Maybe I've just contradicted everything I said above.
 
Sort of, but I got you, russ. Didn't ritual describe one of their coffees as being "jolly rancher"?

James: I was under the impression that your bags were description-less... Do you have descriptors on the back of the bag?

Ben S: I agree with many of your points. The reason why I'm so in favor of descriptors on the bag is to provide that blatant indication that different coffees taste different, and in most cases, wildly different. Even when produced in the same country. I mean, especially when produced in the same country. Obviously we know these things as coffee professionals, but 95 percent of your customers (I don't care who you are) do not. Ok, maybe stumptown and maybe Solberg, but that is it.

Wine and beer labels dont have descriptors because there are people whose sole job it is, to tell you what wine to drink with or without your meal... And its a legitimate career to boot! Name a cafe with five or more employees, where every barista and counter person has respectable tasting knowledge of every coffee being offered both by-the-cup and in retail bags, and I will mail you a dollar. A whole dollar! I'll even adjust for different currencies...

Point being, we are light years behind beer and wine as far as general public perception (wine has been good for, hmm, probably about a thousand years, coffee for arguably 10) and I hope there is a day where that is not true, but until then, I think we need all the educational assistance we can get and descriptors are a part of that.

Personally, I like them... Especially when they help me more accurately identify a specific flavor and expand my lexicon.
 
Everyone has an opinion but I think the telling portion is that coffee people are always big into bag descriptions.

I have been researching it a lot and I think from a marketing perspective, the point of sale (online or off the shelf) is a more effective place for a lot of information people choose to include on the bag.

Of course everything is subjective to who your market is.

I can put the mill date on most of my coffees but does that really sell more coffee or help educate the consumer on the difference in quality? Likewise, I can put very attractive descriptions on the bags but our quality starts long before it hits the cupping table. Getting that message across is hard.
 
I'm happy you brought this up Jaime.

I constantly hate those very detailed bag descriptions. Mostly I can't find back half of the things they print on the label. How can an average client?

I guess more general description will give a higher consumer satisfaction. As with wine i think we need to give more general info and more and better information on what the brewing possibility's are.
There are still a lot of 'big' roastery's not pointing out for what purpose(s) the bean is roasted. Please.....
 
Post a Comment





<< Home

<< Home || Projects || Events || About || Subscribe ||

Archives
March 2006 / April 2006 / May 2006 / June 2006 / July 2006 / August 2006 / September 2006 / October 2006 / November 2006 / December 2006 / January 2007 / February 2007 / March 2007 / April 2007 / May 2007 / June 2007 / July 2007 / August 2007 / September 2007 / October 2007 / November 2007 / December 2007 / January 2008 / February 2008 / March 2008 / April 2008 / May 2008 / June 2008 / July 2008 / August 2008 / September 2008 / October 2008 /


barismo clouds

Articles - Coffee Gear - Espresso Technique - Espresso - Reviews of Coffees - Roasting - Green Coffee - Tea and more Tea - Musings - Cambridge

Shop us online @ barismo coffee
barismo
169 Mass Ave
Arlington MA, 02474